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[同志電影] 女同志電影--Viola Di Mare.

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 樓主| 發表於 2010-3-24 09:55:35 | 顯示全部樓層
網站小提醒:2GIRL的網址統一變更為 https://www.2girl.net,請記得更改你的「我的最愛/我的書籤」喔
LOL you gave away the ending...I was planning to watch it when I read ur article about the film....now I'm not sure I'm going to watch this.
jchsu1283 發表於 2010-3-22 10:14

you have got to see it!
I mean, there are tons of lesbian movies that have been made,
but there hasn't been one as touching and moving as this one.
and there are a lot of unexpected twists in the movie as well.
such as that not all lesbian relationships end with a happy ending.
and the place where the movie was made is just gorgeous!
you would regret not seeing it after reading what I have to say about it!
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 樓主| 發表於 2010-3-24 10:02:30 | 顯示全部樓層
網站小提醒:2GIRL定期清除90天以上的短消息,重要資料請記得複製到自己的電腦喔
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唷...我覺得那只是小插曲...
伯爵夫人太寂寞或出自於好奇心吧(女女做愛的滋味)
總之,我覺得不是很重要...
而且...她跟SARA過的日子真的很辛苦
假如今天SARA沒有難產過世
她們一家三口也一樣會活得很辛苦 ...
erica0814 發表於 2010-3-22 20:40

我覺得有Sara在日子會比較好熬!
因為現在每當Angela看到Sara的遺孀她就會忍不住想起Sara.
當然這已經不重要,畢竟故事內容在Sara的靈堂就結束了.

順帶一提.
那個伯爵夫人胸部很有料(:secret: :^///^: )!
有一幕是Sara再幫她洗澡, 她的胸部99%都露出來了(就差那兩粒葡萄沒露)!
overall, 這整部片子給我一種像是soft porn的感覺...
有幾次害我看了都很害羞...:;P:
裡面的角色都很大方的為"藝術"脫...
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發表於 2010-3-25 02:42:07 | 顯示全部樓層
great movie!
i always wanna find some good les. movies but unfortunately there aren't many out there.
thanx! :)
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 樓主| 發表於 2010-3-25 09:36:39 | 顯示全部樓層
great movie!
i always wanna find some good les. movies but unfortunately there aren't many out there.
thanx! :)
lilmissy 發表於 2010-3-25 02:42

you are always welcome to share your thoughts on the movie.::D:
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發表於 2010-3-26 13:07:47 | 顯示全部樓層
本帖最後由 lilmissy 於 2010-3-26 13:35 編輯

我滿喜歡的一小段是angela和sara兩個人在鏡子前面
鏡頭從下往上拍的時候 我以為就像一般shot一樣
沒想到他們互換衣服 angela穿女裝 sara穿上男裝
i thought it was pretty sweet and cute but it's kinda sad in a way.  angela can only dress as a woman at home.

還有一段是angela去找baroness
回到家 sara發現之後說 by dint of dressing up as a male, u become like them or something like that.
印象也滿深的
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 樓主| 發表於 2010-3-27 12:13:15 | 顯示全部樓層
我滿喜歡的一小段是angela和sara兩個人在鏡子前面
鏡頭從下往上拍的時候 我以為就像一般shot一樣
沒想到他們互換衣服 angela穿女裝 sara穿上男裝
i thought it was pretty sweet and cute but it's kinda sad in a way.  angela can only dress as a woman at home.

還有一段是angela去找baroness
回到家 sara發現之後說 by dint of dressing up as a male, u become like them or something like that.
印象也滿深的
lilmissy 發表於 2010-3-26 13:07

it's pretty ironic that even though Angela can only dress as a woman at home, she seems to get used to dressing up as a man, and enjoys it even. this contrasts with the time when she first decided to cross-dress and live as a male for the rest of her life, in which she seemed rather uncomfortable in male clothes and to talk like a man who directs the workers in the quarry.

the scene that I like the most is when Angela is wooing Sara to marry her.
I thought that was really adorable and brave of Angela!
the following kissing scene is pretty awesome too,
in which Angela impulsively kisses Sara who then probably feels disgusted by it.
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發表於 2010-3-27 14:26:01 | 顯示全部樓層
本帖最後由 lilmissy 於 2010-3-27 14:47 編輯

i agree.  as the time went, angela did seem to get used to her new identity.
what i found interesting about this film is that she was kinda forced to act or be like a man so it's sorta like a mask of her own.  i dont really see this movie as a tragedy tho, even her loved one died at the end.  the thing is that she didn't  become the mask (man) but rather being/free herself- a woman.
it's pretty tough when you have two identities, how do you balance these two.  
and i thought it's pretty sad that one has to change to whatever in order to be with her partner.  

yeah, that scene was cute.  
i love to see when one tries to do something (in a nice way of course :p ) and the other one gets blushed or tries to avoid.  that turns me on :p so cute.
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 樓主| 發表於 2010-3-27 15:15:09 | 顯示全部樓層
i dont really see this movie as a tragedy tho, even her loved one died at the end.  the thing is that she didn't  become the mask (man) but rather being/free herself- a woman.
it's pretty tough when you have two identities, how do you balance these two.  
and i thought it's pretty sad that one has to change to whatever in order to be with her partner.
lilmissy 發表於 2010-3-27 14:26

you made an interesting and good point about the film, that it doesn't necessarily end tragically.
but it's still sad that it takes Sara's death for Angela to muster up the courage to stand up for their lesbian relationship,
not be slient, and pretend to live as a heterosexual couple. in this sense, it is a tragedy.

if it weren't for Angela's bold, romantic pursuit, Sara would probably never have realized tha she is gay.
but this raises the question of whether sexuality is genetic or fluid.
was Sara gay before she had met Angela, or was she gay after Angela courting her?
in your personal opinion, do you think we are born gay?
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發表於 2010-3-28 00:48:01 | 顯示全部樓層
the funny thing is, everyone in the village knew angela was a woman even they made an announcement  that the priest made a mistake and she disguised herself as a man.  remember there was a scene where she had to strip butt naked in front of an officer?  i mean people knew, they all just pretended, didnt wanna face the fact, and thought it's ok as long as angela and sara did what is acceptable to the mass or majority.  so the point of pretending was? just to be a heterosexual couple to be acceptable and accessible to "others" thus they could be free?  to me,  sara and angela were trapped since.  guess they had no choice.  sad, isnt it.

if you wanna be with her, you have to do certain things.  otherwise, you are screwed.  
there must be some other ways, no?
what would you do?  

i think born gay or not is just the matter of recessive or dominant genes.  i mean it's there.  i believe everyone has a potential.  
there're too many restrictions and rules to follow so we suppress ourselves.
  
you are attracted to the person's physical appearance or personality?
people are visual animal.  it's only our nature to get attention on the look first of course.  um... it's another topic to discuss :p   
anyway,  to answer your question.  some are, some aren't but possibly become one later on.
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 樓主| 發表於 2010-3-29 12:23:26 | 顯示全部樓層
the funny thing is, everyone in the village knew angela was a woman even they made an announcement  that the priest made a mistake and she disguised herself as a man.  remember there was a scene where she had to strip butt naked in front of an officer?  i mean people knew, they all just pretended, didnt wanna face the fact, and thought it's ok as long as angela and sara did what is acceptable to the mass or majority.  so the point of pretending was? just to be a heterosexual couple to be acceptable and accessible to "others" thus they could be free?  to me,  sara and angela were trapped since.  guess they had no choice.  sad, isnt it.
lilmissy 發表於 2010-3-28 00:48

it wan't so much that people didn't want to face with the truth that Angela was indeed a woman, as it is that Angela's father pressured everyone in the village to accept Angela as a man. one of the workers at the quarry didn't even try to pretend: he blatantly confronted Angela to "man up", and then attempted to rape her.

from my understanding of the movie, Sara and Angela didn't want to pretend to be a hetero couple. Angela was forced to live as a male by her father. other the other hand, her mom, who has unconditional love for Angela, seemed to be fine with her lesbian relationship. I would say if Angela's father didn't intervene in their relationship by locking Angela in a cellar, they probably would have lived as a normal, lesbian couple.

throughout the whole movie I didn't feel that the villagers were as much homophoic as they were misogynistic. even though it's a lesbian movie, I feel that it conveys a much greater contempt and hatred for women in general, than it does particularly for lesbians.

I have the exact sentiments on the born-gay issue as you. Sadly, scientists haven't been able to locate a single gene that can determine our sexuality. and there hasn't been any conclusive studies that prove homosexuality is inborn.
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